COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS

Sherwood Forest Road Maintenance District

Prudential Committee Meeting

Saturday, March 24, 2007

APPROVED

Committee Members Present: Robert Ronzio, Chairman; Jerry Summit, Vice Chairman; Gilles Beaudoin; Marty Feit, Clerk-Treasurer

 

Committee Members Absent: David Bonney; Michael McEnerney

 

Public Present: Richard Borsari, Sheila Borsari, Bill Brownhill, Joyce Brownhill, Patty Clemons, Chuck Clemons, Nancy Devane, Deb Fitzgerald, L. Forster, M. Forster, Jim Griffin, Girard Grondin, R. Guevin, Al Labombard, Sandra Labombard, Dennis LaChapelle, Blanche Lennington, Gail McGeer, John McGeer, Jeanne Pryor, Richard Pryor Harold J. Tranghese, Ann Tuleja, Donald Tuleja

 

Meeting called to order at 10:05 a.m.

 

Reading of the Minutes

Mr. Feit reports that the minutes of the [2/24/07] “Special Meeting” are being presented for approval today; the “other minutes” [from the regular meeting on 3/2/07] will be done on Monday [3/26/07].

Mr. Summit moves to accept the minutes as presented; Mr. Beaudoin seconds; unanimous approval.

 

Public Participation

Joyce Brownhill asks that in  Mr. Bonney absence that Dennis La Chapelle be sworn in today to sit on the board.  Mr. Ronzio says the only way for that is for Mr. Bonney to resign

 

Mr. McGeer asks if this is a special meeting. Mr. Ronzio replies that it is not, it is an additional meeting of the Prudential Committee. There is general discussion of scheduled, additional, and special meetings and the criteria for calling them. Mr. Brownhill inquires when the Prudential Committee was notified of this meeting. Mr. Ronzio responds that the committee was notified when he received the information early in the week (Monday or Tuesday); it was posted on Wednesday and was e-mailed to the Prudential Committee members on Thursday.

Ms. Lennington asks how one goes about getting a copy of the minutes. Mr. Ronzio responds that they are being posted on the web site of the Sherwood Forest Neighbors Association. Ms. Lennington says they have not been posted there since December. Mr. Feit offers to take down e-mail addresses and e-mail approved minutes to people who would like them. Mr. Ronzio states that any minutes posted on the SFNA board are unofficial. Once approved an official copy can be obtained from the SFRMD’s clerk.

Ms. Brownhill says that unapproved minutes can be sent out; they do not have to be held. Mr. Ronzio agrees that it is correct. There is discussion of how soon minutes can/should be made available to the public. Mr. Ronzio says that he checked with the District’s attorney and found out that anywhere from two to four weeks was an acceptable amount of time. Mr. Feit asks for clarification form the board if they want unapproved minutes to be sent out to the public. Mr. Ronzio confirms that un official minutes will be sent out to the public as soon as they are available.

Mr. McGeer says that the minutes should be done like the Town of Becket and there is more discussion of the format of the minutes and of the difficulty of transcribing minutes when several people talk at once.

There is discussion of ongoing items carried forward on meeting agendas. There is discussion of what may or may not be public information. Mr. Ronzio says that if he meets with the District’s lawyer or speaks with him on the telephone under the Open Meeting Law it is not public information and he does not have to make it a public record. Mr. McGeer states that the lawyer is working for the people and that they have a right to know [what is discussed with him]. The Special Act is consulted and discussed; this leads to discussion of bylaws and changes that have been made to them over the years.

Ms. Brownhill says that as she understands the act, the board recommends and then the people vote; she asks if this is wrong and says, “Somebody had better clarify the act.” Mr. Ronzio responds, “We will do that.”

Ms. Fitzgerald asks why the minutes can’t be posted on the web site and discussion follows regarding web sites [which the SFNA and the Town of Becket have] vs. bulletin boards [which the Road District has] and the difference in cost and what can or can’t easily be posted for viewing.

 

Communications

None

 

Old Business

Accounting

Mr. Ronzio verifies with Mr. Feit that accounting issues are “all taken care of”.

Building Committee

Not addressed.

Culvert Survey

No action taken.

Road Signs

Mr. Ronzio will check with the Road Superintendent to see if he has ordered road signs.

Stop Signs

Mr. Ronzio did check into stop signs at the intersections of Whistling Arrow and Alan-A-Dale and Friar Tuck as mentioned at the last meeting; he talked to the town Highway Superintendent, Bill Eloverta, who “went into a whole litany of things” that would be required and “basically said this was not a good idea”. Mr. Ronzio could get into all the details should people still wish to pursue this. Briefly, he explains that according to Bill Eloverta the placing of stop signs has to do with the number of accidents that occur at particular intersections and neither Town of Becket nor the Road District has records to substantiate putting up stop signs at the locations discussed. If a stop sign goes up, it needs to be maintained; if it is not maintained, or it goes down but is not replaced and an accident takes place the District would then be liable for not maintaining the signs. Another issue that Mr. Eloverta brought up is that, by placing stop signs at these intersections, he elieves motorists people would speed down Whistling Arrow creating an even more hazardous situation.

Abandoned/Unregistered Vehicles

Mr. Ronzio states this item can be taken off the agenda.

Winter Road Preparation

Mr. Ronzio states this item can be taken off the agenda.

Road Resurfacing Projects

No action taken.

Equipment Purchase Feasibility Study

No action taken.

Road Maintenance Priorities

No action taken.

Memorandum of Understanding – SFNA

Mr. Ronzio states, “The Sherwood Forest Neighbors Association is back so we can probably work on that”. No action taken.

Deteriorating Conditions of Spillway and Right of Way at the Southern End of Little Robin

Mr. Ronzio says this will probably have to be taken care of by someone with an engineering background. Most likely an engineering consultant will probably have to be brought in to assess what needs to be done to repair the deterioration. Mr. Ronzio believes this will cost some money, which presently is not in the budget therefore, but it will have to be postponed till next year.

 

Budget Preparation for FY 2008

Mr. Ronzio distributes copies of information from Mass General Law Chapter 40, §5B on reserve policies to committee members to read and discuss. Mr. Ronzio says the Stabilization Fund is designed to pay for extraordinary things or occurances. He cites as an example the flooding which occurred in October of 2005. Free Cash, he says, is like what the district currently calls General Reserves. There is discussion of the advisability of taking the Money Market monies to establishing a formal Stabilization Fund. Mr. Feit points that General Roads account is already over budget and opines that splitting it up it would make it worse. Mr. Feit reports that there is $62,000 in the Money Market account; Mr. Ronzio suggests that all of this money be put into the Stabilization Fund. He states that he thinks this might have to be voted on by the public.

There is discussion of possibly increasing the amount for insurance and of the accuracy of the figure listed for refunds. Mr. Summit suggests adding an item for engineering expense.  There is discussion of maintenance and of roads, sooner or later, needing to be redone, and of what has been spent on this sort of thing in recent years. Mr. Ronzio asks Mr. Feit to add in a request for a public vote on an engineering expense line item.

Ms. Brownhill asks to be recognized, then opines that she thinks the road people should know how the job needs to be done. Mr. Ronzio says that an engineer could advise them professionally. Mr. Summit says that [the roads in the Forest] have no base. Mr. Beaudoin addresses the need for proper drainage of water off the roads and into the ditches. Ms. Brownhill suggests then that the waterways and the ditches be cleared first. Mr. Ronzio speaks to possible ways to pay for what needs to be done, including floating a bond or “pay as you go”. Mr. Grondin speaks from the floor to say that the work that White Wolf did to the roads lasted longer because he put a crown in the road.

Mr. Pryor asks to be recognized, saying that he is the Road Superintendent for the Sherwood Greens Road District in Sherwood Greens. He explains that in the Greens, they “scour” the sides of the roads so the water can drain off and doesn’t sit and collect in pot holes. He also speaks to the expense of hiring an engineer, saying they have had to do this in a few instances. Mr. Summit says the roads in the Greens are much more level than those in the Forest. He says that he is a civil engineer and knows the importance of ditches but the problem in the Forest is that there is no sub base. The discussion moves to culverts and the fact that there are many in Sherwood Forest which are completely plugged. Mr. Ronzio speaks to the problem of “windrows” along the sides of the roads, which are created when grading is done. He further states that as they build up they block the water from draining into the ditches, causing it, instead, to run along the edge of the road surface, thus deteriorating the roads. “That,” he says, “is the biggest problem we face in this entire Forest and until we get somebody in here to give us some advice . . . it’s going to continue.”

There is now discussion of the widths of the roads in the Forest. Mr. Ronzio says the roadways’ traveled sufraces have narrowed over time. Ms. McGeer opines that the people currently doing work on the roads are not properly trained.

Ms. Tuleja asks about the $5,000 deficit in the operating budget. She asks if special appropriations are done at the end of the year. Mr. Ronzio says that prior to the annual meeting there will have to be a Special Meeting to take money out of the General Reserve to try and balance that out. She also asks what is the amount of money that will be put in the budget for Engineering Expense. Mr. Ronzio says they should have $5,000 to start. Ms. Tuleja asks for clarification of the Contract Services lineitem  and is told it is for administrative expense such as hiring someone to do minutes. She asks what the insurance is for and is told it is for workman's compensation, liability insurance, bonding insurance, etc.

Committee members now discuss liability insurance coverage on the roads. Mr. Beaudoin objects to having this under the SFNA’s policy. Mr. Feit asks why and Mr. Beaudoin says, “Because you’re going to have a lot of people very upset because there’s a lot of people in the Forest that do not agree with SFNA.” He says the choice should be given to the people, whether to be covered under the SFNA’s policy or to buy a separate policy. Mr. Ronzio agrees with this but says that the task at hand is to put a dollar amount into the proposed budget. There is discussion of how much this amount should be.

Mr. Ronzio suggests reducing the General Reserve to $7,000 to keep the budget in line and there is discussion of this among committee members. Mr. Ronzio recaps what has been decided about the proposed budget, saying, “$7,000 on General Reserve, $4,000 on Insurance, Refunds is going to drop to $5,000, and we’re going to add the Engineering Expense.” He asks for a motion. Mr. Summit so moves; Mr. Beaudoin seconds; unanimous approval.

 

Special Meeting Date

Committee members all have copies proxy voting which needs to be added in to the Special Meeting. Mr. Summit so moves; Mr. Beaudoin seconds; unanimous approval.

April 28th is discussed as the date for the Special Meeting. Ms. Forster advises that the SFNA is having a meeting starting at 9:00 AM on that date. Mr. Summit moves to approve the 28th of April as the date of the Special District Meeting; Mr. Beaudoin seconds; unanimous approval.

Work Orders

No action taken.

Contractors/Bid Proposals

No action taken.

Road Abandonment – Attorney’s reply

Mr. Ronzio says, “Basically, it’s a complicated procedure since it involves the SFRMD, SFNA and deeded rights.” No action taken.

Engineering Study

No action taken.

Any Other Old Business

None.

 

New Business

None.

 

Road Superintendent’s Report

The Road Superintendent is not present. No report given.

 

Treasurer’s Report/Reading of the Warrant

Mr. Ronzio says that at this time there are no bills to pay and that Mr. Feit has provided all of the information for the budget. Mr. Feit states that as of 3/24/07 there is $128,911 in the treasury, $62,000 in the Money Market, for a total of $190,000. Pending bills to be paid at the end of month for the next meeting under warrant is $2,901 paid. He says that doesn’t include two salaries and bills he’s sure will be coming in from Andrews (probably ten or twelve thousand dollars).

 

Mr. Brownhill asks to go back to two meetings a month. The committee will take it under consideration. 

 

Ms. Lennington asks if agendas can be sent to the public via email. Mr. Ronzio says he couldn’t guarantee that what was sent would be the final agenda because other things come up but it is decided that yes, agendas can be emailed.

 

There being no other business to conduct, Mr. Summit moves to adjourn; Mr. Beaudoin seconds; unanimous approval.

 

Meeting adjourned 12:46pm

 

Respectfully Submitted

 

 

 

Marty Feit

Clerk-Treasurer

 

 

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Robert Ronzio, Chair                                        Date

 

 

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Jerry Summit, Vice Chair                                  Date

 

 

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Gilles Beaudoin                                                 Date

 

 

 

 

 

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